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      "body": "Steve Paul Jobs was born on February 24th, 1955 in San Francisco and was adopted as an infant by Paul"
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      "body": "calligraphy, which would later influence the typography on the Mac. Back in Silicon Valley"
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      "body": "1984, with the now-legendary Super Bowl commercial targeting Big Blue, otherwise known as IBM."
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      "body": "On January 24th, Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh, and you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984."
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      "body": "Around the same time, he also became involved in a little animation."
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      "body": "making Steve Jobs the largest single shareholder in Disney at the time."
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      "body": "In a twist of fate, Apple decided in 1996 to buy Next."
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      "body": "In 1997, Apple's board ousted CEO Gil Emilio and invited Jobs to step in as interim CEO, or I-CEO as Jobs called it."
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      "body": "Crucially, technology from Next became the foundation of Apple's future."
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      "body": "which helped re-energize the brand with its all-in-one design and user-friendly appeal."
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      "body": "The back of our computer looks better than the front of anyone else's, Jobs quipped,"
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      "body": "Under Jobs' leadership, Apple not only returned to profitability, it became a trendsetter."
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      "body": "front of consumer technology. Inside Apple, Jobs pushed for excellence, famously telling his team"
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      "body": "In 2004, Steve Jobs was diagnosed with a rare form of pancreatic cancer."
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      "body": "passed away at his home in Palo Alto, California, surrounded by his family. He was 56 years old."
    },
    {
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      "startTime": "724.465",
      "endTime": "729.52",
      "body": "News of his death spread around the world instantly. Fittingly, much of it via devices"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "729.52",
      "endTime": "734.434",
      "body": "he had shepherded into existence. Tributes poured in from world leaders and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "734.434",
      "endTime": "740.002",
      "body": "History peers, President Barack Obama, held Jobs as among the greatest American innovators,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "740.383",
      "endTime": "744.528",
      "body": "brave enough to think differently, bold enough to believe he could change the world,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "744.789",
      "endTime": "746.491",
      "body": "and talented enough to do it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "747.473",
      "endTime": "751.058",
      "body": "Microsoft's Bill Gates, once Jobs' rival, said,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "751.238",
      "endTime": "755.444",
      "body": "For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it's been an insanely great honor."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "756.866",
      "endTime": "758.388",
      "body": "Jobs once said in a keynote,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "758.849",
      "endTime": "760.892",
      "body": "We are here to put a dent in the universe."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "761.653",
      "endTime": "765.338",
      "body": "By the time of his death, it was clear he had done exactly that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "766.079",
      "endTime": "771.747",
      "body": "He had inspired a generation of entrepreneurs to think differently and chase big dreams."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "774.23",
      "endTime": "779.638",
      "body": "In the Shell is written, researched, and recorded by me, the iPodcaster."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "780.72",
      "endTime": "785.326",
      "body": "If you are listening in an app that lets you rate shows, please take a minute to rate this one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "786.127",
      "endTime": "786.908",
      "body": "I would truly..."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "786.908",
      "endTime": "796.021",
      "body": "really appreciate it. I mentioned it last episode, but if you are looking for a great movie"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "796.021",
      "endTime": "803.899",
      "body": "that covers the early days of Apple and Microsoft, with some creative liberties, of course,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Josh",
      "startTime": "804.81",
      "endTime": "814.864",
      "body": "check out Pirates of Silicon Valley. That's it, take care, and I'll see you next time."
    }
  ]
}